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5	Name: Michael	5 April 2005 13:03
	Email: bzik_01

How come a bastard like you is still alive? I hope you'll choke in your vomit... you son of a bitch.

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4	Name: GABY1	25 March 2005 10:20
	Email: gaby1	Country, city: Canada

... ... I noticed the "sent item" was truncated ... here is the rest of the response on the: Theology of the Holocaust ...

and operate the kidnapping of the Victim so well delineated by the Victory of the Crucifix that every year (every day with the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass) Christianity has celebrated for NOW 2000 years with OLJC. Within this framework, Satan would be better identified with Gestas, name of the "bad thief" equally crucified to the left of OLJC ... saying : "/deliver us from this false sorcerer/."

The theology of the holocaust cannot be lately defined as a "quantitative Redeemer" it is a false perspective destined for failure. The super swindlers cannot be accepted by God, and like the offerings of Cain, of the Mammonites and of the false priesthood will be rejected and suffer the consequences. Tomorrow is Good Friday one of the three most solemn feast of our Mystery of Equity toward the Creator. In joy it is the Incarnation of Jesus, in sorrow it is the Crucifixion and in the final glory of the Resurrection it becomes the accumulation of the lives of all the saints furnishing enough witnesses and scars to cover the admiration of all creatures in as many shades of victories as single individuals ... over 20 centuries that is "AT THE END OF THE DAY" ... the logical pursuit of LOVE!!! And "them that say they are Jews and are not" are welcome to take part of the Passion sustained by not only time, but also by millions of victims scattered universally and extend their life into the celestial Israel ... thus to stop trying to re-create the earthly Paradise that has many times failed through the Imperium of man's will.

Sacrifices of soldiers whether German or part of the Soviet Empire are made "in good faith", all soldiers mean well ... the same cannot be said of the "controlling" totalitarians using them all, we as individuals or as collectively involved in "communities" most often mean equally well ... but, one must analyze his state and re-align it's compass so that we become convinced that nobody can be "elected" without a "pit-stop" in purgatory before collecting the fruits of victory (ie: insuring our entrance into Eternal Life).

I do realize that the above will sound like proselytizing to many, the Christian is missionary by nature and I do NOT apologize, yet, I consider addressing the subject of the quantitative holocaust almost a duty and as a warning to all those involved in substituting a false set of tools for achieving the Election which is very far "from the cup to the lips" in terms of tasting the appetizers to the so-called "Chosen" that are lulled by fables.

GABY

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3	Name: GABY1	24 March 2005 23:05
	Email: gaby1	Country, city: Canada

Dear friend Shamir ...

... it has been a long time since I have responded to one (of the always interesting articles that you and your correspondents are contributing..) however this "ONE" on the holocaust theology by MaxW is quite a display of "good will."

The science of theology as that of medicine (for example) is very often laden by "counter-sciences" and does include the teaching of anti-remedies. Both of the contrarian alternatives are the fruits of "all sorts" of interests, mainly the pursuit of "life = virtue" or of selfish interests that of gaining material extractions from the sacrifices of "others." Cutting the rhetoric to the essentials ... there is a Qualitative holocaust and NOW (since in the early third millennium and especially the 1960..) the quantitative holocaust. MaxW is hitting the nail "on the head" when he finds "it" unexplainable to see the iniquities of Judaism to ALMOST "completely submerge" the redeeming values of Christianity. So his rapprochement of the holocaust to "satanism" is quite "excusable" ... and here is why.

Starting with an incursion into the Jewish Encyclopedia that recently became part of the public domain of the Web, one can find that the word holocaust has no definition, none at all. It refers to two other listings, that of Burnt Offering and Sacrifice. It must be noted that: "this online version" contains the unedited contents of the original text completed almost 100 years ago (thus does NOT cover either the creation of Israel, the Holocaust, etc..). It is instructive to see the evolution of the origins from "animal burnt offerings" to "piacular or expiatory" human sacrifice and then back to the development of burnt (or of substitute outflow of blood..) offerings. As a "footnote" or a prelude to the (absence of "daily" offerings since the destruction of the second temple..) it mentions that the "freedom to offer sacrifices anywhere and without the ministrations of the appointed sacerdotal agents have disappeared ... under Moses, according to the Pentateuch" (ie: not very flattering to the priesthood of the RC Church..) putting the emphasis on the Paschal Sacrifices.

It took almost 2000 years for Judaism to find the "collective" and thus quantitative holocaust ... that should be a daily remembrance of the redeeming value of soooooooo many of "them that say they are Jews and are not." offered (albeit non voluntarily..) whereby they are now erecting their second "golden calf" in order to re-deviate the doctrine of repairing ... sins NOW committed against "humanity" (ie: the humanity "exclusively" represented by "them") ... in other words, IF "they" can be identified as Mammonites of materialistic values, "they" can equally become Controllers of "spiritual values" (or the beacon of all moral values, leading also the interpretation of Justice as well as Banking.. etc.) and operate the kidnapping of the Victim so well delineated by the Victory of the Crucifix that every year (every day with

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2	Name: JeffLawson	21 March 2005 08:26
	Email: jogma	Country, city: Australia

Hello Israel Shamir.

I'm an anti-Zionist...what I'm curious about is how you or anyone measures success on this issue{Zionism}..?

9/11 had a dual effect IMO, it allowed the ZOG's to expand their power by over throwing Iraq, but it also created a flurry of anti-Zog info, however, BUSH still got back in, and the alternative to Bush was Kerry{a Jew, and presumably 100% Zionist}.
IMO, if the US doesn't attack Iran in the next 2-3 yrs, this issue will die down and the public will be back to their big screen TV's.

So how are you measuring success and also do you think the US is going to attack Iran anytime soon?

Thanks.

JL.

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1	Name: LanceThruster	9 March 2005 21:14
	Email: lancethruster	Country, city: USA, Los Angeles

I am an atheist who was raised nominally Catholic. I have only recently learned to view the mainstream position on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict with suspicion. I have learned of many great information links from Jews, secular and otherwise, who value integrity and justice over tribal allegiances.

I also wish help finding a particular article. A Jewish lawyer friend said it was in the LA Times, on the front page, somewhere between 1975 and 1985. It was about an attitude or philosophy within the Jewish community about how they are expected to treat non-Jews. He said it was a kind of Jewish code of Bushido, that is, take no prisoners, the duty to take advantage of suckers, exploit the non-Jew to the fullest extent, etc. I have no information other than that but am interested in finding the article. Have had no luck with the search within the Times archive and my freind said the article revolved around a particular term or concept. Another friend offered some possibilities from Yiddish
[ shlemiel (sp?)] but I have still not located it. Any info or help on this search would be appreciated. Most searches along these lines bring up critiques of Zionism.

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Israel Shamir

[email] [url] [Jaffa]
See
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Number=1442666
for similar well based data. See also Israel Shahak's book on www.RadioIslam or in a bookshop

10.03.05 00:03

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